• DrCintli

    they have no shame. Their 1st duty should be to return them.

  • abkasti

    First The burn most (nearly all) og the aztec’s documents and steal their gold now they want money to restore or save the documents.

  • Curtis Mullin

    Well, that would be a first – if its even true; and how about the library of ancient sacred books closed off from the public, will little babyjesus be coveting those all to himself for another 2000 years too?

  • Bogdan

    Yes, return them to the Aztecs.
    Also return all artifacts of northern African origin to North Africa.
    A wonderful future awaits them there.

  • Billiam201

    If only they had been collecting 10% of people’s money for a couple of millennia. I’ll bet they would have that €50,000,000 by now.

    Then again, why pay for it yourself when you can get the masses to do it for you?

    After all, the pope might need another cloth-of-gold robe someday.

  • Yatgirl Teh Bucket

    you don’t know what to do with your nice things and your money. i’ll steal them from you, because i’m responsible and take care of MY (or your) things. trust me.

  • Noble Ray Wimpye El

    They are trying to clean their slate. That’s the reason the Pope visited the United States this past Fall.

  • Solgirl

    “They are looking for corporate sponsors and normal people who want to see this work” Normal people?

  • Solgirl

    Church of England and many other denominations aren’t any shyer about soliciting funds from their adherants.

  • Solgirl

    Well, the temples are having to be dug out of the ground and these manuscripts are still here and viewable – what’s your point?

  • bwils74

    They spent all of their money on lawyers

  • Bogdan

    Bad analogy, sorry.
    The „owners” of cultural artifacts are not the people who happen to live in the same geographical area 2000 after the culture that created them.

    In some of the areas where there were ancient, amazing civilizations, there are other problems now, more stringent than museum management. Syria is in pieces, Egypt in dictatorship, China in smog and wild capitalism and Mexico in the middle of gang wars.

    So, yes, if I have nice things such as manuscripts and my house is about to burn with nobody in charge, do keep these nice things. Our grandchildren then stand a chance to see them.

  • Billiam201

    Which is exactly my point. Clerics just put their hand out, say “the omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent deity whom I represent, simply can’t accomplish this thing without more of your money!”

    And people (who will join the cleric in question when he insists that this being can do anything) simply cough up the cash, because the deity simply needs more of their money to accomplish [insert task here].

  • TruthBringer

    Misconception about Mexico. Indeed there are gang-wars in Mexico. Nevertheless, they do not affect cultural heritage due to the fact that ranches are not on protected areas thus making them separate. Moreover, Mexico’s cultural heritage institutions lead the world in preservation and protection of their material culture. Furthermore, even though after 2000+ years of several colonising processes, the Aztec and Mayan culture descendants are still there, thus being the true owners of those artefacts.
    Furthermore, if your statement about removing culture objects from dangerous countries, we could start removing all these things from the USA, UK, France, and so on due to the fact that they are in high alert from terrorist bombings in response to their neocolonial and neoliberal policies.

  • Bogdan

    Your points are valid, thanks for an informative reply 🙂
    There might be ways in which I was wrong about China as well (it’s not the artifacts that are in danger there, but rather traditions).

  • How about appreciating what they are doing, to free this stuff for study and appreciation, instead of cheap anti-Catholic jokes … JUST A THOUGHT!

  • raycathode

    Apparently, corporate sponsors who might help fund such work are… abnormal. Inferring that would be a great way to raise money from them, I’m sure.

  • raycathode

    At the end of the 14th century, a scribe by the name of Poggio travelled around the monasteries of Europe seeking to examine ancient scrolls. Due to shortages of vellum in prior centuries, monasteries often had scribes cover over ancient text with a kind of ‘white out’, or they would scrape off the ancient text. Poggio was particularly skilled at recovering the ancient text hidden beneath. His greatest discovery of this sort was a work called “On the Nature of Things” by Lucretius. This spectacular discovery helped enormously to bring about the modern world. Who knows if such similar texts lie hidden here. Perhaps some more of the missing three fourths of Aristotle – the greatest thinker in human history – the man who delivered us the “Organon” which informs us of Inductive (scientific) reasoning, deductive reasoning, instruction on how to form definitions, the categories (that which may be said of a thing), rhetoric, his biology, etc. – the man who provided the base of almost every science.

  • Vatican, the richest organization in the world is looking for corporate sponsors giving a timeline of 15 years. Farce.
    Never the less its about time!

  • Paul K. Sulkowski


    If you include all of the assets locally owned by Catholic parishes throughout the whole world, then possibly. However, for this to have a tangible effect, every Diocese and Parish in the world (outside of Rome) would have to sell and send 100% of all those funds back to Rome, then possibly. However, that is nowhere near reality.

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